Keep in mind that I never suggested that the company wasn't on the "up and up" on my website.

Like you, I tried to have a rational conversation with my viewers so that they could properly assess the seemingly wonderful opportunity presented to them.

Your points were very good and should not incur the wrath of the board of former judges and state attorneys now working for ACN.

For me, in college, it was the free bottle of booze pyramid. I ended up having to abstain.
 

Thanks Les.

I know nothing about their business processes. I also choose to make no statement about whether or not they are a good company.

The problem I have is that the numbers simply don't make sense. If you blindly accept someone's assumptions in any business dealings, you put yourself in a vulnerable position.

My advice: make yourself a spreadsheet where you lay out all the data, model a few scenarios, and see if it still makes sense. If you don't have the ability to do so, find someone who does.
 

Kenneth, I posted some your dialogue over at bizop, hope you get some traffic out of it!

You observation that if you just calculate the expected outlays and returns is excellent - but, equally as important is getting the "potential mark" to understand the importance of doing the cold, cool calcuation.
 

I can't believe I read that whole thing. That was so long.
 

I read it too. Poop smells bad.
 

ACN is a sneaky "legal" pyramid scheme. I read the whole thing as well, glad that dude got his friend out of it. I already lost 3 friends to ACN - I'm not going to tell them that its a pyramid, I want them to learn. Reason for this is, this is the 2nd time they have fallen for a scheme - the one before was the Mili Group here in Southern California, similar but only a Ponzi scheme. They've been trying to get me to join ACN for a month, they recently joined and haven't received a check, but I'm certain they will not be happy with their check, they only have gotten 2-3 people in.

Their so-called "meetings" (AKA Cult gatherings) they want you to be as dumb as possible, even if you did not understand anything they just said they still want you to join. When I was at their meetings, there was no way in hell could convince me that their company was legit...although it maybe by the system, ethnically it is illegal and a scam. One of the reps that invited my friends to the meeting as well as me and my brother tried so hard to pressure us to join. They mean nagged on my brother when he said "I still need more convincing"...their response: "What do you need convincing about?" & "There's nothing to be convinced about..." My brother also saw it was a scam, and thankfully didn't join either.

All in all ACN doesn't want new people to know about them, unless it's a recruit telling them - they are sneaking that way. The less you know, the more vulnerable you'll be to join their cult when they lie about the lifestyle you can have at their gatherings, and that's why they are so big because of the $500 recruiting - a new reps failure is the key to their success.
 

is this site real....
 

By brother has just signed up to ACN and he is convinced that he'll make a million dollars within a year. Instead of trying to sell it to me after I warned him, he just told me that I'll be working for the next '30-40 years only to end with a pathetic pension while he'll be laughing all the way to the bank, saying "I told you so!"'
I'm sure he'll be able to get a lot of people to sign up with that line!
I also like your point about Skype. I forgot about that one and will bring it up to him. Video phones seem kind of pointless now that we have the internet available to us.